Talk:Electrology

Moved to Electrology

I have moved this topic to Electrology instead of Electrolysis (cosmetology) for three reasons:

• To distinguish the practice of electrology from other meanings of electrolysis.
• Not all electrical epilation is strictly electrolysis. One method uses diathermy rather than electrolytic reaction.
• Not all electrology is cosmetology: the original ophthalmologist's paper from 1875 described its use as a medical procedure to cure trichiasis. Electrology is still used for both cosmetic and medical purposes to this day.

Jokestress 22:08, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Electrolysis is a practiced world wide trade or profession where operators remove unwanted hair from people or animals permentantly. This whole field of electrolysis(hair removal) was started in 1875 by Charles E. Michel M.D. It is recognized as a trade by the Manitoba government! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.160.202.86 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 29 March 2005, Moved to this article on 03:40, 26 June 2005 bu User:Omegatron

Uncertain as to the relevance of the definition of one canadian province (Manitoba) on a dictionary project for the whole english speaking world. Graldensblud 20:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality

Although I have no opinions on the matter, I was recently contacted by a user claiming that this article is biased. In deference to that statement, I've added a neutrality dispute template to the article. I'd encourage any involved parties to discuss the accuracy and fair coverage of this article. Thanks, Alphachimp 00:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Refusing to allow an editor to linkspam her non-notable business website (her only contributions ever to the project) is not an NPOV issue. I've removed the tag. Jokestress 18:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I have edited the final paragraph, which was biased and unencyclopedic.Snafflekid 19:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Adverse events

Discussion of side effects, etc. should be added. -- Beland (talk) 18:01, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Agreed; I had understood that electrolysis can cause scarring, while laser hair removal had a far lower probability of such effects. I was surprised to find this article devoid of any such discussions. Ouizardus (talk) 02:33, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 7 November 2024

Electrology → Electrolysis hair removal – A quick Google search reveals that "electrology hair removal" exclusively returns "electrolysis hair removal". This is the word used by the US Food and Drug Administration, the American Electrology Association, and numerous reliable sources. Courtesy ping participants in the Electrolysis (cosmetology) -> Electrology move (2005) @Jokestress and @Omegatron. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 18:05, 7 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 17:48, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

• Fine with me. 👍 — Omegatron (talk) 03:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - the field and focus of the article is Electrology, just as the 2005 move mentioned. That's why say the organization is called the American Electrology Association. There's also the technical aspect that Thermolysis, which has become more common as a technique employed in the use for hair removal as it is faster and can be less painful, isn't technically electrolysis but thermal degradation, so if we moved the article, we may as a side-effect of citogenesis of people misreferring to the entire field as electrolysis instead of electrology. This would this create more ambiguity of the term as WP:PRECISE is one of the core important criteria for article titles. And the people working in the field are referred to as Electrologists, not Electrolysicists. Same for scientific articles, that refer to the field as electrology or "medical electrology". So since this article is about a semi-medical field, we should employ the medical standard for precision of the field and thus the current term, with redirect from the other is fine. I see the article could use from some improvements though, so I'll add it to my article adoption backlog and circle back when I get a moment. Raladic (talk) 06:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

  @Raladic The article mentions electrology exactly once, as its first word to explain the title, and mentions electrolysis seven times, plus two times in the sources. The article is describing the hair removal process, not the field of study itself. The current lede states the scope of the article as "the practice of electrical hair removal to permanently remove human hair from the body" and "the actual process of removing hair using electricity". In every reliable source, this is called electrolysis, as electrology does not refer to the practice or the process but to the field of study. According to the current lede and reliable sources, galvanic, thermolysis, and blend methods are all part of electrolysis. If thermolysis is not part of electrolysis, there would be no reason for electrology to study them. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 08:37, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

  The article as it stands right now is in not great shape as I called out and is devoid of inline citations, so it needs a lot of work, so your dependence on current wording is not a good reason supporting your case for moving of the article.

  The article was specifically moved to Electrology as a result of the above discussion at Talk:Electrology#Moved to Electrology that pointed out how Thermolysis is not strictly electrolysis and thus the prior article title was wrong based on our WP:AT criteria of precision of what an article is about.

  And yes, Electrology also refers to the field of practice as the largest international governing body of it is the “American Electrology Association” which certifies people as the “ International Board of Electrologist Certification”. That is what practitioners of the field are called as I already pointed out above. Raladic (talk) 15:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC)